Preface: For some time now, folks on this sub have been asking me to make a devoted submit about my points with Senator Sanders. At first, I did not need to resulting from lots of current adverse posts on Bernie right here. On the identical time, I feel my views are vital to contemplate as they arrive from a spot of deep concern, for my future and my household’s future. Finally, I feel the most important push was somebody who instructed me they had been capable of Yang a number of folks with my posts, which is absolutely touching to listen to, and why I lastly determined to do that. A bit about me: I voted for Bernie within the primaries in 2016, Jill Stein within the basic, and Zephyr Teachout as a downticket candidate in 2018. Now three years later since Bernie’s final run, as a minority on welfare, now with private expertise with a number of of Bernie’s flagship proposals, I can’t in good conscience vote for him this time round.

Beginning off, Bernie’s proposals are usually not coping with the most important elephant within the room: native and state governments. It’s the state governments liable for: Jim Crow legal guidelines, corrupt regulation enforcement, anti-lgbt legal guidelines, abortion legal guidelines, and so on. It doesn’t assist that he constantly praises FDR, a person who knowingly allowed the passing of Jim Crow legal guidelines that barred minorities from the advantages of the New Deal, to be able to achieve the southern vote and by no means noticed a necessity to assist minorities with something, resulting in an age of prosperity for almost all of People, so long as you had been white. It was wanted on the time to get America out of the Nice Melancholy, positive, however we actually should not be praising it and attempting to deliver it again. Whereas Bernie shouldn’t be racist, he’s committing the identical flaws that led to the benefit of excluding minorities within the first place even now with The Inexperienced New Deal.

[https://www.history.com/news/fdr-eleanor-roosevelt-anti-lynching-bill](https://www.historical past.com/information/fdr-eleanor-roosevelt-anti-lynching-bill)

[https://courses.lumenlearning.com/boundless-ushistory/chapter/minorities-and-the-new-deal/](https://programs.lumenlearning.com/boundless-ushistory/chapter/minorities-and-the-new-deal/)

*” Whereas the New Deal was formally designed to profit African People, a few of its flagship packages, notably these proposed through the First New Deal, both excluded African People and even harm them. “*

Downside with Bernie is that every one of his plans work as trickle down for the general public sector. Sure, trickle down. Invoice Clinton additional bolstered this with the 1994 Crime Invoice, the identical invoice Bernie signed (sure, I do know why he signed it however it led to disastrous penalties for these he wished to assist. Because of the 1994 Welfare Reform Act which was included with the invoice, the federal gov can solely present the funding for social packages, whereas it’s the states that really administer and execute the packages on the floor degree.

[https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/06/through-welfare-states-are-widening-racial-divide/591559/](https://www.theatlantic.com/concepts/archive/2019/06/through-welfare-states-are-widening-racial-divide/591559/)

[https://www.jacobinmag.com/2016/08/welfare-reform-clinton-twentieth-anniversary-poverty/](https://www.jacobinmag.com/2016/08/welfare-reform-clinton-twentieth-anniversary-poverty/)

This has led to thousands and thousands being missed or being denied over ridiculous causes, slicing of funds, and mismanagement of funds (purple states utilizing tanf funds to fund abstinence packages in minority faculties). As it’s, Bernie shouldn’t be addressing any of this. I voted for him beforehand, however had an issue with him with regard to this again then too. I hoped he would’ve improved his insurance policies or thought them over since 2016, however he has not. If trickle down is a catastrophe within the personal sector, why are we nonetheless giving it a go within the public sector? We’re imagined to be preventing programs of oppression as progressives, however this one isn’t given practically quantity of consideration it ought to.

Even worse, nobody in Bernie’s camp is even grilling him on these items to start with. As a minority on public help, it’s actually upsetting to see. He’s speaking about M4A and FJG, when the poor can’t even afford public trans (extra on this later), and the homeless can’t even afford to assemble the mandatory paperwork wanted to use to jobs within the first place. UBI is unbelievable in that it instantly offers with all of those points, with out inserting the onus on state governments to truly carry it out – lest they make excuses and lower funding or prioritize sure neighborhoods like they do with every part else. Somewhat, the cash goes on to the folks, particularly those that’ve been ignored or handled as burdens up until now.

FJG is arms down one of the vital anti-disability pleasant insurance policies I’ve heard being proposed shortly. Nevermind, the truth that most disabled can’t even commute or work a job to start with, however for individuals who can, it diminishes their distinctive strengths and forces them into an surroundings they most probably gained’t be fitted to. I’m additionally autistic and I’ve been teased and harassed over misunderstandings at each min wage job I’ve labored. I’m additionally pretty simple to dupe into doing work for another person or be taken benefit of. I can’t think about being caught 30+ years in a job with unemployable, bitter people who find themselves itching for a susceptible punching bag to take out their anger on, and a boss who would fairly flip a blind eye or be elsewhere, simply because the federal government doesn’t see me as a worthwhile individual except I’m doing one thing to profit it. This has already occurred in France; we do not want tragedies of this manner in America.

[https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/09/world/europe/france-telecom-trial.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/09/world/europe/france-telecom-trial.html)

Low-level gov work is rife with office abuse points. A bit bit extra about me. My father was a state authorities employee. He labored as a janitor for a public college from the 80s up till his retirement within the mid-2010s. He wasn’t disabled, however he was the one minority janitor there. They’d him doing all of the soiled work and time beyond regulation hours, and he hardly ever ever had sufficient time to simply spend with me and my mom due to it. Another excuse why the FJG scares me. As somebody who helps out my dad and mom with every day actions now, it would not profit myself, nor different caretakers both.

For these with disabilities, Bernie’s insurance policies are past missing:

[https://berniesanders.com/issues/disability-rights/](https://berniesanders.com/points/disability-rights/)

I help ending the sub-minimum wage. Nevertheless, every part else is just a pivot again to the FJG or welfare. SSDI and SSI is damaged on this nation and include strict work limits and necessities. Hundreds die yearly from states slicing funds for administrative workplaces and other people falling by way of the cracks. But, all Bernie plans on doing is rising funding and growth, which sounds good till you understand he is basically simply passing on extra money to the states. The identical states slicing the funding within the first place. Whereas the precise checks cannot be restricted by the states, they’ll and do restrict the quantity of people that qualify.

[https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/12/27/thousands-die-waiting-social-security-disability-insurance-appeals/2420836002/](https://www.usatoday.com/story/information/nation/2018/12/27/thousands-die-waiting-social-security-disability-insurance-appeals/2420836002/)

Compared, Yang’s FD is an unconditional $1000/m. SSI max is simply $783 and most of the people solely get round $600. SSDI is round $1.1-1.2k on common, and stacks with Yang’s FD, which might be greater than you’ll get with SSDI+SSI (1.7-1.8k+ vs. 2.1-2.2k+). You’re solely eligible for SSDI if in case you have a confirmed work historical past and have become disabled afterward. For those who had been at all times disabled and don’t have any work historical past, you’re caught with SSI.

[https://www.ssa.gov/OACT/COLA/SSI.html](https://www.ssa.gov/OACT/COLA/SSI.html)

[https://www.disabilitysecrets.com/how-much-in-ssd.html](https://www.disabilitysecrets.com/how-much-in-ssd.html)

So why cannot the FD stack with SSI? If folks proposing this had been truly on welfare, they’d perceive why it is a dangerous thought. First off, it isn’t that FD does not stack, it is that SSI itself has an revenue ceiling of 1.7k/m. For those who make any greater than that, you possibly can not obtain it. If the FD stacked, that can also be essentially the most you’ll have the ability to make monthly(because the work limits are nonetheless in place as a result of SSI), making essentially the most they’ll make a 12 months solely ~$21ok yearly. That signifies that’s essentially the most the disabled would have the ability to make, which doesn’t sound favorable in any respect. Second, not solely is that this justification primarily based in no firsthand expertise of truly being on public help to your personal survival, however nobody is even proposing this feature to start with, and too many individuals are falling into nirvana fallacy ranges of pondering for his or her justification on this matter. [https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/134/Nirvana-Fallacy](https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/instruments/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/134/Nirvana-Fallacy)

For those who ask me, if something, the onus ought to be on the senators to draft payments that really repair this drawback. They aren’t although, and Yang is the one truly being vocal about eradicating these strict work necessities and limits for folks and bringing true reform to our damaged welfare system; one thing I am not listening to from Bernie outdoors of platitudes, and which might be definitely not mirrored in his incapacity rights web page:

[https://youtu.be/-a5gqWptuac?t=840](https://youtu.be/-a5gqWptuac?t=840)

Free faculty? Not working in NYC. If Bernie tries to get his free faculty by way of, it would most probably find yourself in the same type as faculty right here, the place: it solely applies to first-time undergrads, you or your family should be making lower than six figures, and I can simply see Bernie accepting such circumstances. The issue with this although, is that it basically makes free faculty a means-tested program the place (going again to the problems of state authorities), folks find yourself falling by way of the cracks. Even worse, because the authorities is the one subsidizing, the value for faculty will solely rise much more as a result of the scholars not lined will nonetheless be compelled to pay out of pocket resulting from “needing faculty”.

[https://www.marketwatch.com/story/report-nearly-70-of-students-who-applied-for-new-yorks-free-college-program-were-rejected-2018-08-16](https://www.marketwatch.com/story/report-nearly-70-of-students-who-applied-for-new-yorks-free-college-program-were-rejected-2018-08-16)

That is actually what made faculty so costly within the first place: the federal government sponsored and elevated entry to loans for college kids, resulting in a rise in tuition and in flip, administrative prices, because the authorities was footing the invoice for these lined. These not lined nonetheless needed to pay absurd prices for his or her tuition. Bernie shouldn’t be getting the precise price of faculty down, he is simply subsidizing it (thus enabling the universities’ value gouging, whereas Yang is aiming to get the fee down altogether by NOT subsidizing them and forcing them to decrease their administrative prices to be able to obtain continuous funding. That approach, faculty shall be reasonably priced for everybody who wants it, fairly than simply being free for some college students and never others. As somebody who spent 6 years in faculty, was on the dean’s listing, and graduated with a double B.A and each GPAs round 3.5, Yang is 100% proper right here:

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6YM9wg248k](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6YM9wg248ok)

To me, Bernie’s insurance policies appear to have this persevering with sample of injuring the identical folks he wished to assist. The $15 min wage is resulting in retailer closings in my neighborhood. It led to a big lower in hours and my paycheck, and extra “on-call” days at my earlier job when it initially handed, whereas a few of my coworkers had been let-go altogether. There may be now a big scanning robotic at my native grocery store – the staff let the shoppers take photos with it, making it particularly good for enterprise. In the meantime, all of the $15/hr has executed is make it HARDER to get employed, as a result of bosses don’t see hiring folks as definitely worth the danger. As a substitute, they only double the load of their present workers. In the meantime, whereas shops that served the group since I used to be a little bit child are actually closing, company chains have moved in to take their place. It additionally pushes folks OFF of the welfare obtain within the cases the place they’re correctly paid, resulting from not being under the brink; I do know a number of folks this has truly occurred to.

[https://thecity.nyc/2019/06/minimum-wage-hike-is-net-loss-for-those-whose-benefits-fall.html](https://thecity.nyc/2019/06/minimum-wage-hike-is-net-loss-for-those-whose-benefits-fall.html)

Based on Bernie’s logic although, these are the businesses that “deserve” to remain in enterprise since they’ll afford it – although they don’t seem to be paying their workers a “residing wage” both. Castro truly had provisions in his plans that forbid unfair scheduling practices, however these appear to be absent in Bernie’s minimal wage plan. I’ve had one Bernie supporter counter that at the very least now somebody can get a second job, however that is even worse. Persons are already overworked to dying, and hiring has turn out to be tougher on enterprise because it handed. Perhaps it really works in wealthier areas like Midtown or Williamsburg, however for poorer communities like mine, it is hurting us and is simply not a superb coverage in follow; under no circumstances ought to or not it’s applied federally. South Korea now additionally appears to be studying this the exhausting approach:

[https://asia.nikkei.com/Economy/South-Korea-s-minimum-wage-hike-campaign-deflates](https://asia.nikkei.com/Financial system/South-Korea-s-minimum-wage-hike-campaign-deflates)

[https://www.reuters.com/article/southkorea-economy-unemployment/south-korea-jobless-rate-jumps-to-9-year-peak-as-minimum-wage-hike-roils-labour-market-idINKCN1Q12TB](https://www.reuters.com/article/southkorea-economy-unemployment/south-korea-jobless-rate-jumps-to-9-year-peak-as-minimum-wage-hike-roils-labour-market-idINKCN1Q12TB)

The detrimental results of the $15/hr apart, making it tougher on small companies is gravely detrimental to minorities. Proper now, we’ve got a system the place a black man with no file has a harder time discovering a job in each the private and non-private sector, than a poor white man with a legal file. I might really feel a lot safer if minorities and susceptible teams who couldn’t get the federal government to hearken to their issues, have a approach to have the ability to begin their very own companies and supply for themselves and their households safely, doing one thing they get pleasure from, as a substitute of becoming a member of gangs or counting on legal exercise out of desperation as a substitute – which is all too frequent the place I stay. I’ll even go as far to say that, whereas it has already been far harder for black folks to generate inter-generational wealth (particularly resulting from FDR’s New Deal and the redlining that occurred on account of it) in comparison with white households, white America appeared to have little to no subject with capitalism. Now that it is not working for his or her children and grand children, immediately the system must be torn down altogether and we have to have socialism as a substitute.

For the longest time, girls and minorities had been banned from public establishments, with the emphasis right here on *public*. Girls’s schools and the HBCUs had been created as a RESPONSE to this. Now, fairly than fixing capitalism and having it work for extra folks than it ever has earlier than, progressives are extra eager on shutting down these avenues that caused true progress for thousands and thousands of minorities, all due to this dire dedication to ideological dogma. There are actually Bernie supporters unironically claiming Human-Centered Capitalism doesn’t exist, can’t exist, and the system have to be destroyed altogether in favor of a extra government-driven system. In the identical nation that left minorities powerless for hundreds of years and sought to take away their energy by making them MORE depending on authorities packages for survival. If this sounds terribly privileged and dickish to you, welcome to my world.

Moreover, he desires to ban constitution faculties, and his supporters wholeheartedly encourage this.

[https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2019/05/17/bernie-sanders-ban-forprofit-charter-schools/3709607002/](https://www.usatoday.com/story/information/politics/elections/2019/05/17/bernie-sanders-ban-forprofit-charter-schools/3709607002/)

[https://jacobinmag.com/2019/07/bernie-sanders-charter-schools](https://jacobinmag.com/2019/07/bernie-sanders-charter-schools)

Wait, why is that this an issue? Is not he doing this to assist black and brown college students? He’s, however that is not the purpose. The purpose is that state public college programs have a protracted historical past of failing minority college students and Bernie’s personal privilege (I hate to maintain pointing this out however I actually should) is blinding him from seeing how vital constitution faculties are to minority children. Right here in NYC, faculties are nonetheless closely zoned, making our faculties essentially the most racially segregated in America. In my neighborhood, all the general public faculties are poorly funded, whereas the white faculties aren’t. Moreover, minority dad and mom DON’T need charters taken away. They’re the one faculties even giving the youngsters right here precise alternative at a good future. There may be truly an ongoing battle in my very own group proper now as a result of De Blasio can also be anti-charter and he’s not giving these children any first rate choices after closing down their faculties. In the meantime, he was caught turning a blind eye in the direction of a high-school grade-fixing and rigging their college students’ grades, permitting them to go it doesn’t matter what:

[https://qns.com/story/2019/10/22/southeast-queens-success-academy-students-demand-a-permanent-middle-school-during-city-hall-rally/](https://qns.com/story/2019/10/22/southeast-queens-success-academy-students-demand-a-permanent-middle-school-during-city-hall-rally/)

[https://nypost.com/2019/10/21/de-blasio-ignores-success-academy-students-protesting-on-steps-of-city-hall/](https://nypost.com/2019/10/21/de-blasio-ignores-success-academy-students-protesting-on-steps-of-city-hall/)

[https://www.the74million.org/article/stewart-hey-bill-de-blasio-i-was-once-a-charter-school-parent-and-i-dont-deserve-your-hate/](https://www.the74million.org/article/stewart-hey-bill-de-blasio-i-was-once-a-charter-school-parent-and-i-dont-deserve-your-hate/)

[https://nypost.com/2019/09/28/de-blasio-knew-of-maspeth-hs-alleged-grade-fixing-but-failed-to-act-queens-councilman/](https://nypost.com/2019/09/28/de-blasio-knew-of-maspeth-hs-alleged-grade-fixing-but-failed-to-act-queens-councilman/)

Are some charters rackets that should be handled? Completely. However once more, regulation is what’s wanted and blanketly banning various decisions and leaving solely state-run public establishments and providers as an possibility, solely hurts minorities additional by taking these various decisions away from them.

Ought to billionaires pay their fair proportion? In fact. I imagine we ought to be attacking crony corporatism and the revolving door although, which Yang plans to do. Bernie simply appears to need to repair corruption on the fed degree, however even with that, he doesn’t even help ranked alternative voting, and his public funding voucher solely exists within the type of a tax credit score, which is ineffective for these that may’t work.

As for Yang and his proposals, the wonderful thing about Yang is that he appears to care about everybody, whether or not they’re capable of work or not. Even relating to his healthcare proposal, he truly contains public transportation included as a part of it – one thing ALL the candidates ought to be doing so far as I am involved. That is the primary actual plan outdoors of UBI that appears to take care of a severe impediment confronted particularly by these in poverty that different candidates have given little to no point out to, Bernie included. I stay in Southeast, Queens and at any time when I journey to Manhattan, it is virtually like visiting one other nation with how significantly better served it’s in comparison with my neighborhood. Bernie funding infrastructure on the fed degree simply tells me that the states will prioritize the areas they need to, fairly than serving to everybody.

Healthcare shouldn’t be the most important impediment to the poor, transport and mobility is. As an illustration, I’ve medicaid however hardly ever go to the physician, as a result of the place I stay, the minimal quantity Metrocard you should buy is $15-something on the native bodega or examine cashing place, in comparison with the sheer quantity of kiosks that litter Manhattan the place you should buy one for simply $Three or add any quantity on to your card to make up the distinction. As evidenced by years of infrastructural gentrification of NYC, higher infrastructure doesn’t attain everybody and doesn’t equate to simpler entry.

Proper now, my total household receives lower than $1k/m on welfare. With Yang, we’d get $3k/m. That’s an unbelievable game-changer for our lives, particularly contemplating we stay in NYC and payments are already extraordinarily troublesome to pay. The issues about VAT are nonsense. I want folks fought towards gross sales taxes as exhausting as I see them railing towards the VAT. Simply final 12 months, De Blasio handed an web tax shortly earlier than operating for president with little opposition; it now prices a further greenback or extra to purchase something on-line. I’ve needed to go on lunch whereas operating errands at instances, just because I could not cowl the gross sales tax on the quick meals locations round right here. Yang’s VAT shouldn’t be remoted like gross sales taxes are; it comes alongside the FD. This not solely covers the VAT itself, but in addition the taxes and charges that make it troublesome for us to get issues we’d like *now*. It’s a *lifetime* payout and doesn’t should be regularly renewed like present welfare.

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLwRZibUqL0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLwRZibUqL0)

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaOJe4HXs6I](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaOJe4HXs6I)

[https://twitter.com/RogueSocialWrkr/status/1198040525061971969](https://twitter.com/RogueSocialWrkr/standing/1198040525061971969)

As for M4A, if the federal government can’t supply higher insurance coverage, then they shouldn’t be eradicating that alternative from different folks, particularly these most susceptible to abuse from the federal government. Proper now, the most important subject is folks being denied remedy primarily based on the insurance coverage they’ve. Whether it is common, that’s not a problem.

Proper now, it looks like he is committing the identical errors in the direction of the poor that we’ve been doing for many years now. In terms of what gov considers “fundamental healthcare”, it’s abysmal. Medicaid is sponsored personal, however the state nonetheless permits what’s offered. I need to know that what the federal government is providing me is value having solely Berniecare, and for me, as his invoice is now, it isn’t. Now, I’m not towards it, however it’s not sufficient to truly assist those that are poor.

For me, Yang’s plan is instantly higher. He’s truly dissecting and attacking the roadblocks the poor undergo with regard to medicare at each degree, and isn’t simply eliminating personal and specializing in eliminating it as if it makes every part higher, whereas treating every part else as an afterthought. Once more, he’s even masking public transit prices along with his proposal, one thing that also makes it exhausting for me to go to a health care provider regardless of having medicaid. As a bonus, it means I wouldn’t even have to make use of my UBI on transportation for docs’ visits.

Historical past in the ushas confirmed eliminating personal decisions by no means works. We’re not European nations. We’re the scale of a continent and we’re a extremely heterogeneous, various inhabitants. For those who don’t assume for a second that the federal government gained’t use that to its benefit, then I don’t know what to say; it’s not one thing I can afford to danger in my place. In the meantime, I see progressives persevering with to reward and defend and push for MORE solely public choices, regardless of how damaged public providers already are, simply due to their very own supreme of the way it ought to be. I solely want they knew how out of contact this comes throughout as.

Having the identical program as European nations =/= identical high quality as European nations. We’re not Europe and we’re not Canada. These nations haven’t got practically the quantity of historical past nor points with poverty AND race-related caste programs that America does. Furthermore, thousands and thousands of individuals shall be dropping their insurance coverage jobs, as a result of resulting from obstacles in software on the state degree, not everyone seems to be eligible for a gov job no matter what Bernie says. It’s not that I’m towards M4A(I’m not). There’s simply so many issues unsuitable with the best way he’s particularly going about it and eliminating duplicative personal as an possibility.

Banning personal isn’t mandatory. We ought to be attacking the core problems with why personal isn’t working right here, regardless of working in locations like Switzerland, Taiwan, Australia, and so on. If the issue isn’t particularly personal healthcare, then we shouldn’t be attacking that. Somewhat, we ought to be attacking the sheer quantity of corruption and incentives for corruption in our present personal healthcare market AS WELL because the variations in docs’ licensing necessities and healthcare amongst states (once more, a state authorities subject).

Exterior of rhetoric, I’m sorry, however Bernie actually doesn’t appear to truly be championing the poor in any tangible approach outdoors of voting on payments. He’s horribly weak on any matter regarding susceptible teams and that are not strictly associated to corruption or class wrestle. Being a bigot is neither unlawful nor corrupt, and addressing these points is not going to repair bigotry. I actually do recognize that Yang truly acknowledges this in his proposals and the utmost significance in subverting the facility of states rights by instantly giving cash to folks as a substitute of getting it trickle all the way down to the states as a substitute.

Bernie has voted on some good and a few not so good issues, identical to all the opposite senators. For all the nice he has voted on, he has additionally voted: towards the Amber Alert system, towards legalizing homosexual marriage and favoring leaving it to the states(once more, state gov), for the 1994 Crime Invoice, and for Trump’s SESTA/FOSTA invoice that’s anti-sex work. For those who had been questioning why so many black supporters of Biden, Warren, Kamala, are so cautious and even vitriolic of Bernie and his supporters (and by extension Yang who they do not belief, resulting from having floor similarities with Bernie), effectively now you realize why; he doesn’t even help any technique of reparations, and continues to present tone deaf causes for why. Whether or not you agree with reparations or not, the reply he offers right here is ridiculous, and like Buttigieg, continues to tie in poverty in minority communities with lack of training, all whereas failing to see WHY they’re poor within the first place – they lack cash and capital as a result of our very personal system of presidency in the usmade it troublesome to build up that. His plan can also be extra only a legal justice reform plan, and whereas that can assist minorities within the system, I feel we ought to be extra targeted on having much less minorities go down the legal route within the first place. Like his incapacity rights web page, he merely pivots again to the FJG and $15 min wage as financial options for minorities.

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUFrErawm4c](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUFrErawm4c)

[https://berniesanders.com/issues/racial-justice/](https://berniesanders.com/points/racial-justice/)

Once more, all his options lead again to finally leaving the execution of those packages within the arms of the states, and giving them the ultimate say in how they’re truly dealt with on the floor degree.

Actions communicate louder than phrases, and from what I’ve seen firsthand, the precise actions he’s taken is at the moment hurting communities like mine greater than serving to them. So yeah, that is it. Thanks for taking the trip to pay attention. I am going to attempt to replace, add hyperlinks, and so on. as time goes by.

EDIT: Wow! Thanks a lot for the gold and silver!!
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  2. Wow. This is the most well-thought our post I’ve seen on this sub to date. I had never thought about how much power states have in executing federal programs. You make a powerful case on how Bernie’s policies would help the working class but not the poor. The campaign should hire you as a surrogate for Yang on pro-Bernie and pro-Warren shows

  3. >Being a bigot is neither illegal nor corrupt, and addressing those issues will not fix bigotry.

    Damn that really hit home for me. Would be curious to see how a Bernie supporter would respond to this argument.

  4. Thank you.

    A lot of people, myself included supported Bernie in 2016 because we were not politically engaged enough to research their specific policy stances. A lot of Bernie supporters (not the one on cesspool subs) will be surprised to learn that they share very little with Sanders and more with Yang if they took isidewith quiz.

  5. Thank you so much for sharing your experience and I hope things get easier for you and your family no matter who becomes president (hopefully Yang) in 2020. I also hope Bernie supporters could take some time and actually read this. Not gearing up for a fight – but actually just sitting down and reading it. I feel like more people would be open to your story, as well as others like you, if they just listened and hopefully they will.

    Thank you again for taking time to write this. I will keep this bookmarked to share with Bernie supporters I know. Take care.

  6. Thank you, your comments have been very informative and a huge eye opener for a lot of people already.

    To people asking for a tldr… the world is a complicated place, grasping for easy answers to difficult problems often makes things worse.

  7. I think the issue for many progressives is that they taken the Bernie kool-aid from what few progressive media there is available. So they aren’t willing to openly engage themselves to Yang’s policies because they been all in for Bernie since 2016 and want ONLY Bernie since then.

    I hang with people on the left and lots are still either don’t trust Yang or a bit wary about his UBI proposal. I really want to say something and even back it up on fact but afraid I’ll get shut down by ideology pieces presented as proof.

  8. It is likely that it will come down to just Yang and Bernie later this primary. This critique should be published and distributed so people can be more informed when casting thier vote.

  9. This needs to be upvoted more, and this shld be the template at which we convince more and more berners that Yang is overwhelmingly the better choice simply because he wants to remove the root of the problem and not just trim the stem only for it to grow again after

    YANGGANG

  10. This is incredibly well-written and well-sources. Having grown up extremely privileged on the west coast, I could never pretend to empathize with poor and minority communities even in other parts of LA, let alone across the country. But what I always liked about Yang is that his plans very clearly attacked core problems affecting everybody, and I always knew the problems with policies that affected me, affected disadvantaged communities astronomically more.

    I learned a lot from what you wrote, and you reinforced the intuition I’ve always had about Yang.

    One thing that really spoke to me were you words about how billionaires should still pay their fair share, and the problem is how Bernie (and Warren) want to do it. Billionaires aren’t rich just because they’re rich. In most cases, it’s companies that make them rich, and a wealth tax will be just as easy for a CPA to manipulate as our current tax system. A VAT on the ultimate sources of such wealth, companies, is how we can guarantee fairness in taxes without hurting the people.

  11. Wow.. This is incredible.. Never seen such a detailed post dissecting each policy by point..

    Thank you for doing this.. You are awesome..

    Any chance someone can figure out a way to get this into twitter or YouTube videos.. This needs to go viral, people at-least need to be informed and there should be a dialogue/discussion..

  12. I’m quite surprised this post has relatively few upvotes, considering the thorough perspective OP has outlined. One of the best posts I’ve seen in this subreddit. Thank you.

  13. Amazing, well-reasoned, researched, and clearly written. Your communication skills are excellent, and you have opened my eyes to pitfalls in Bernie’s plans.

    I’ve always been Yang Gang, but now I can see that if Bernie is the pick we will need to demand better from him and his administration if he is to win our votes.

  14. Thanks for this, really appreciate it. And don’t forget, Bernie voted for the war in Afghanistan (he did admit he was wrong about this in the debate)

  15. This confirms a lot of my critique of Bernie and co.’s approach and honestly I’m **enraged** that they are getting away such a lack of substance, to fail especially the racialized poor.

    I want Yang to make this case directly and take on Bernie on the issue of poverty.

  16. >Now that it’s not working for their kids and grand kids, suddenly the system needs to be torn down altogether and we need to have socialism instead.

    It’s so, so refreshing to hear someone, especially a fellow minority make this point. If the spirit of your post had to be distilled into one sentence it would be this one.

    America’s great injustice was in barring minorities from the capitalist American Dream for decades, as well as preventing them benefiting from the great socialist achievements that helped uplift the white natives and immigrants to an unprecedented and idyllic quality of life. From the constitutional rights abuses of select ethnicities in wartimes, to early land grants withheld from non-whites, it was always, like you said, legalized bigotry, rather than economic systems, doing most of the oppression.

    It is funny how we went from MLK fighting for a more human-centered capitalism to having our communities gaslit into clamoring for socialism. You know, Malcolm had something to say about that…

  17. This is wonderful! Commenting here to bookmark, so I can come back to it! So much useful information and so many beautifully articulated insights. Thank you for this!!

  18. Wow!

    There are 100k members in the sub now… that’s enough to put this post at the top of reddit, so why not? This one is worthy of being there.

    **Let’s all upvote this!**

  19. Wow that was well written. Kudos to you. The YangGang never ceases to amaze me. We need to get this on the front page of Reddit! You have that 2020 vision 😉

  20. It is amazing that the author meticulously prosecuted the overwhelming evidence that BS is playing a long con, and yet somehow still speaking about BS with an admiring tone.

    Literally speaking, the only family that BS has helped during his 40 years of “public service” is his own. While his family has flourished, the people that he claimed to help have gotten much worst off.

    The guy literally got kicked out of a communist work sharing community for being a social loafer. Think about that.

    Yes, you can fool people forever because suckers are born everyday.

    Edit: These opinions are not about convincing people to vote for Yang, any candidate would be better than BS (a very low bar).

  21. I like the work and enthusiasm but I’m finding some holes in your arguments. For one Bernie has shown support for instant runoff elections, and he adopted a universal voucher program similar to democracy dollars because of Yang.

    Also we can’t knock him for trying to add more funding to SSDI. The talking points Bernie supporters use is that Bernie is using scandanavia as a model where they have a robust safety net. If that’s the goal we can’t really knock it.

    I would say however that poverty rates in scandanavia still hover around 6%
    If Yang were to add children we could get it down to zero, but Yang’s plan is good too and it would bring poverty down to 3 percent. (30 million out)
    I would also say that Fjg can be used in conjunction with UBI. Although it’s almost entirely focused on an unemployed population of about 6 million. This definitely will take some out of poverty but not as much as UBI

    Other than those points I agree with most everything else. But if I can find holes in the arguments being a Yang supporter, a Bernie supporter definitely will.

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